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Elastic: NOT OK. AWS: Fishy.

Open source software (OSS) started as a reaction to companies like Microsoft and Oracle making “unfair” profits on software, so developers created Linux and MySQL and made them available to anyone for free. Now OSS has gone full circle. AWS is profiting from open source, and Elastic is very mad.


– Quick sidebar on the current state of OSS business models –

In today’s world, many open source projects are built within a for-profit company (e.g., Elastic, MongoDB, and Confluent), and 90%+ of the contributions to a project often come from the company that is commercializing the software. These companies normally allow customers to try their software for free but offer premium features and managed services to enterprise customers.

For these open source software companies, the primary benefits of being open source are the community (which helps with product discovery, feedback, and QA) and the ability to “sell” directly to developers (who can try something without going through a lengthy procurement process).

– End sidebar –


The evolution of OSS business models has led to some tension, and last week, Elastic and AWS got into a big fight on the future of Elasticsearch and Kibana (two open source projects maintained by Elastic).

  • Elastic published a long post announcing that they are changing their software license, so that AWS cannot use their software anymore
  • They also listed off all of AWS’s misdeeds (stuff like trademark violation and misinformation about AWS’s collaboration with Elastic), and ended each bullet point with a very angry “NOT OK.”
  • AWS published a rival blog post saying Elastic’s license changes mean that Elasticsearch is no longer open source and linked to several influencers (Brasseur, Quinn, DeVault, Jacob) who called them out for it
  • AWS’s plan going forward is to fork these two projects under the AL v2 license (what Elasticsearch used to be) and maintain them as a “truly open source option.”


The discussion around Elastic’s announcement has been interesting. It seems like most developers don’t like AWS profiting from open source software that they didn’t help build. At the same time, from a principles perspective, they feel like AWS should be able to do whatever they want with software that is licensed as open source, and Elastic is setting a bad precedent.


Last year, Elastic and MongoDB each made $400M+ of revenue, and AWS clearly wants a piece of their markets. It’ll be interesting to see what happens now that they have both moved to the SSPL license, which the Open Source Initiative has declared “not open source.”


My prediction is there will be a split for the next generation of OSS companies. Some will continue pursuing “pure” open source, but more will take steps like Elastic to protect themselves from the cloud vendors. Mo money, mo problems.



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